tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post5521456354725578774..comments2024-03-10T13:59:19.230-04:00Comments on xpostfactoid: Paint Romney as flip-flopper or right-winger? Both/and!Andrew Sprunghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17601269968798865106noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-68336556657207753742012-01-06T00:35:38.627-05:002012-01-06T00:35:38.627-05:00Also, does it really matter whether the charges ar...Also, does it really matter whether the charges are consistent with one another, or if the narrative makes sense? Obama will run ads where Mitt Romney is saying two completely opposite things, and the American people will think that is bad. And then they'll run ads where he is saying crazy things that are too extreme for America, and they'll think that's bad too.<br /><br />In campaign media land, maybe consistency matters, but most Americans don't live in that land and will just be getting vague impressions. That's perfectly compatible with both flip flopper and extremist without even requiring a story to make them compatible.alsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-17493701050243589382012-01-05T21:34:17.562-05:002012-01-05T21:34:17.562-05:00Kylopod, show those moderate/centrists Jonathan Be...Kylopod, show those moderate/centrists Jonathan Bernstein's post in the Washington Monthly's "What if Obama Loses?" series: Presidents generally keep their campaign promises, and if he wins Romney will be bound by the promises he's made in primary season, his hand most likely forced by a GOP Congress. http://bit.ly/zfgfXhAndrew Sprunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601269968798865106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-57177653780029159982012-01-05T21:28:36.899-05:002012-01-05T21:28:36.899-05:00The problem is that I've encountered several m...The problem is that I've encountered several moderate/centrist types who are considering supporting Romney over Obama because they assume Romney is a moderate at heart, no matter how extreme his campaign rhetoric has become during the bruising primary. So oddly, focusing on how shamelessly he flip-flops may give some people the idea that he'll just pivot back to the center once he makes it to the White House. I think this assumption is a grave mistake, but it's one that I believe many voters are going to make.Kylopodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06932528611103718373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-45344693288224707962012-01-05T16:57:08.633-05:002012-01-05T16:57:08.633-05:00I think Kevin Drum is wrong about this. The flip-...I think Kevin Drum is wrong about this. The flip-flopper charge will resonate with independent/moderate voters, just like it did in 2004 with Kerry.<br /><br />The whole point of the flip-flopper charge is that the man is unpredictable. So, whatever policy preferences you have (be they liberal, moderate, or hard-core right wing), you cannot be sure that Mitt will carry them out if he is elected.<br /><br />And besides, the Village media idiots love that stuff. They're terrified of the "liberal bias" label, so they won't call out right-wing policy lunacy.... but they'll definitely run with the character issue - especially if the Obama campaign emphasizes it.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15913245096162048743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-63337047027101401522012-01-04T20:53:42.948-05:002012-01-04T20:53:42.948-05:00Hi phonerangerK I agree that Friend of Wall Street...Hi phonerangerK I agree that Friend of Wall Street may be the nub of the matter, but there's also warmonger Mitt, immigrant-bashing Mitt, anti-abortion Mitt and no-new-taxes Mitt. In any case, perhaps this latest line of attack from the Obama admin will hearten you (from Plum Line evening roundup):<br /><br />Today Romney denounced the Cordray appointment as “Chicago style politics at its worst.” The Obama campaign responds:<br /><br /> “Mitt Romney today stood with predatory lenders and Republicans in Congress over the middle class. He doubled down on his promise to eliminate the Wall Street watchdog and allow Wall Street to write its own rules again, leaving consumers vulnerable to hidden fees, financial traps and excessive risk taking that will hit their pocketbooks. Governor Romney has made clear he has not learned the lessons of the economic crisis, instead, he’s giving the most irresponsible financial actors a bright green light to pursue profit at any cost to communities across America.”Andrew Sprunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17601269968798865106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512362.post-79047007252572481612012-01-04T20:32:40.773-05:002012-01-04T20:32:40.773-05:00Andy maybe you can find my similar comment on Kevi...Andy maybe you can find my similar comment on Kevin's site. In short Friend of Wall Street <> rightwing ideologue. First Mitt isn't a rightwinger. FoWS is an exact description of Mitt Beta (Bain), 1.0 (Mass), 2.0 (2008) and now 2012's 3.0. Nobody likes FoWS's not Tpartiers, not 99%ers, not even Austrians. Even Newt and Rick were going after Mitt's bank connections today. That's the line of attack.phonerangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04907114979294515070noreply@blogger.com